Air Clippers

Episode 311 October 18, 2023 00:40:25
Air Clippers
Open Run With BTG
Air Clippers

Oct 18 2023 | 00:40:25

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Open Run Episode #311

The Clippers had the opportunity to grab MJ and change what we know as basketball history. Once in 1984 and again in 1988, but what happened? Was it the clippers curse? Would it have worked out in LA? Does MJ maintain the level of success on and off the court in LA?

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[00:00:43] Speaker A: Oprah with BTG. Man, it's good to be back in the gym, man. This is your brother, Twelve Kyle from the Twelve Kyle podcast. Hey, man, if you're going to let me in the gym every week, I'm coming pause, but I will show up. Hey, I want to throw something at you real quick. Now, I'm not sure if you're aware of this. I'm pretty sure you're not aware of this because you probably weren't alive when it happened. But did you know that before the 1988 basketball season, the La clippers in your city tried to trade for Michael Jordan? They discussed a trade with the Bulls involving Jordan where they would get the Clippers number one pick and the number six pick in the 88 draft. Obviously, they did not make the trade, but it would have been significant because at the time, Jordan is 23 years old. He's coming off a season where he averaged 37 points a game. Averaged 37 points a game. And now keep in mind that 88 season was Jordan's golden season, where he averaged 35 a game, led the league in scoring. He was Defensive Player of the year. He had like 3.6 steals a game. He won the slam dunk contest in Chicago. He stole it from Dominique, and he also won the All Star MVP. So imagine what it would have been like if Jordan were a Clipper. So I said all that to say this. Bail, my question to you is, if that trade happens, which it would probably know for Chicago, the dumbest trade ever, if that trade happens, how does Michael Jeffrey Jordan finish his career? Do you think he ever gets to a scoring title? Do you ever think he wins a championship? I think he wins multiple scoring titles. I think he does not win a championship. For all I know, Jordan becomes Dominique Wilkins. But BTG, I'm throwing the question to you and your listeners, if Jordan gets traded, and keep in mind, by this time he's going into what will be his fourth year in the NBA, if Jordan gets traded to the Clippers, how does his career end up? Thank you for checking it out. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you, my brother. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Peace. Twelve Cal going to be the reason why my sports episodes, my sports show in general, is going to be at the top, man. Because with questions like that, first of. [00:03:16] Speaker C: All, let's just say this. [00:03:20] Speaker B: That's a crazy question, though. First of all, let's get back to it. Did I know of it? No, I was too young in 88. I was six. If you hear any background noise, I'm in a hood recording tonight. So you're just going to have to deal with those La elements. [00:03:36] Speaker C: But it's going to be a lot. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Of dogs, car alarms going off. Might hear a helicopter. And that's not stereotypes. Two of those just, um but no, I was then, you know, obviously at six years old, I'm not retaining information like that. But I didn't hear about that until I was older. Right. [00:03:59] Speaker C: But twelve college, right? [00:04:01] Speaker B: Because I didn't hear much of it. Even as an adult did I hear about it. Yeah, but it's almost like they swept it under the carpet or some shit like that. You'll probably see it on like TikTok randomly on Twitter or X, if that's what you want to call it. And they'll have some random NBA stats or NBA facts, I should say. Right. So no, he is right. [00:04:25] Speaker C: I was too young to even know. [00:04:28] Speaker B: About that and things like that. The last biggest bull trade when I was young at that time is when they was talking about Scottie Pippen and that's when he headed to that. It was a possibility that we was going to see him in a Lakers jersey in his prime or the tail end of his prime, because Portland, to me, he was still there. I think his defense had shed it off a little. Was a that's Scottie Pippen in Portland, that's Scottie Pippen in was that was still a good Scotty, right. MJ in the Clippers jersey. Let me just say this out the. [00:05:09] Speaker C: Gate. [00:05:12] Speaker B: That'S almost know what if Belichick didn't stick with Tom Brady in a and I think we've talked about this on the previous episode. I don't think Brady wins as many titles. I would believe Belichick would have more titles than Brady would, if that's the case. [00:05:30] Speaker C: Right. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Because this is also the system and recently we've heard some younger cats come out. Not younger, well, younger than our idols, I should say that. Or their peers come out and yo, there's a lot of cats that did not get a fair shake in the. [00:05:46] Speaker C: League, and that was because of the way they coached. Really? [00:05:50] Speaker B: A lot of players would have benefited by going to other teams. [00:05:54] Speaker C: They said, even star players, you know what I mean? [00:05:58] Speaker B: And I don't know how many of y'all look at the game the way I do, but at one point I believe that I just thought superstars can do what they want, but they are somewhat held back. Unless you're a Michael Jordan, unless you're a Kobe Bryant, unless you're LeBron James. And yes, I'm going to bring up those three names, and those are not the only three names, but those are three easiest names that I can go with. Because if you pay attention to the Lakers winning time series now, yes, is it embellished off the court information? Absolutely. [00:06:32] Speaker C: But. [00:06:35] Speaker B: I don't think they would embellish the way they were being coached and what they were going through on the court. You see what I'm saying? And I think we underestimate, which I don't probably not the average fan, but I can see us underestimating coaching style of play philosophy, things like that. So if your player isn't in the. [00:07:00] Speaker C: Right position, right, playbook with the right. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Coach to put him in the right position to win, then it might be an issue. Case in point, my boy Westbrook, when he came to La, one of the best basketball things that ever happened to me personally because I'm a friend fan and he in a hometown that's one of the golden kids of La. Original. And it's like the one thing that I wanted was for him to win a championship at home. Obviously not with the Clippers, even though we're talking about the Clippers right now. But it was a bad fit. Why? Because of the offense that they were running. And he's aside one of the Cats that going to need the ball all the time. So for that particular skill set that he possessed, it just didn't fit with the offense that we was running, you. [00:07:50] Speaker C: Know what I mean? [00:07:50] Speaker B: And it can kind of hold you back. He took a lot of criticism, et cetera, et cetera. Well, they said this is not anything different from younger players getting drafted or traded to. And sometimes they just be in a bad situation. When you look at. [00:08:06] Speaker C: Let'S see, I. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Mean, there's a couple of other players out there that I could bring up. Well, Troopy told we'll never know players that have gotten drafted. Remember Johnny Flyn? Jimmy Fordette? Like, there's a lot of Cats that. [00:08:22] Speaker C: Were just dope in college. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Some of them weren't as. It's not like all of them were like takeovers, you know what I'm saying? But Tyler Hansborough at point was the number one player in college history as far as scoring points. [00:08:41] Speaker C: No finesse to him, you know what I'm saying? [00:08:43] Speaker B: But he was one of the most dominant offensive players in college basketball and came to the league and was every bit of pedestrian. Now what is that? Is that him? His game not translating to the pros? Or is it a situation? Was it the team that he played on? Was it the coach that he played? [00:09:02] Speaker C: Know, Andrew Wiggins, highly recruited and it. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Doesn'T work out in the early part of his career, comes to Golden State and just fits in as a phenomenal. [00:09:16] Speaker C: Role player in the system, know? [00:09:19] Speaker B: So you look at a situation like that, hey, man, sometimes it might take a minute. Might take you from look at Denny Stroder's career, though. A lot of Cats don't realize where he started from. And he was solid with, you know, a younger Stroder, but he started to season as he got older. But look at the amount of teams that he's played for. [00:09:40] Speaker C: You see what saying? [00:09:41] Speaker B: Like, sometimes it's just your, um but here's the thing. When you talk about MJ, that's an established player, right? The owner for the Bulls at the time was like, yo, the coach, even the head coach at the time, Doug Collins was the coach. Even Doug Collins turned his back on MJ. Like, yeah, I don't think he's it they were saying he wasn't playing team ball. Twelve cow. He wasn't passing the rock. Fast forward. We yelling out past the ball, Kobe. I got to bring Kobe up. But yeah, they said he was a ball hog, so it's like we got to get rid of him, but we might as well get something from him. And 88. Here's the thing, though. Twelve Cow and I did a little bit of digging. Did a little bit of digging. That wasn't the first time he was almost traded. They said he almost got traded in 84. I was two in 84. And it was something about a first round trading, a first round pick deadline. So it didn't happen. So the Clippers dropped the ball twice on Michael Jordan. The clippers. Dropped the ball twice on Michael Jordan. Do I believe he would have won a championship with the Clippers? I cannot say no. I don't think he wins six. I don't think he goes undefeated in the finals. I think he's just as dominant or even more. I think the dynamics I would hate to think I cannot say, hey, keep the same career, but as a Clipper, I can't say that. And I'm not talking about the gameplay. I'm talking about overall. Like what he built with Chicago is just unmatched, you know what I mean? Now, I think the colorways would definitely been different and dope not better. I ain't going to say it's going to be better, but they're going to be just as dope, because if you come out those Clipper colorways now, they're. [00:11:41] Speaker C: Going to be dope you know what I mean? [00:11:44] Speaker B: They're going to make it dope. I just don't know if it ends up like that. We're talking about the butterfly effect. One blink and everything is different. But will he be able to share the same city as Magic Johnson, the other MJ? Absolutely not. I think it works, though. [00:12:01] Speaker C: I think it works. [00:12:03] Speaker B: And I will even go as far as saying this, Twelve Cow, because I know you was waiting on my reply. [00:12:07] Speaker C: But guess what? If we don't believe Donald Sterling if. [00:12:12] Speaker B: We do not believe Donald Sterling can put the team together, I think he. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Ends up with the Lakers. [00:12:18] Speaker B: I'm sorry I had to say it. I'm going to tell you why. Because when they was trying to trade him, donald Sterling was so cocky. He was like, yo, I'll offer my first and 6th round draft picks. You know what I mean? We'll trade and you could pick anybody. I forgot how many players. I think three players. Three players. Now, I don't fact check it twelve cal because I don't want to mix both of the drafts. I mean, I don't want to miss both of the years up 84 and 88, you know what I mean? But Donald Sterling did say that you can take, what, three of my players? I want to say it's three. I hope it's not more. If it was more than three, that would have been crazy, but let's just go with three. He said three players, and he said you could pick any three you want. This is not three that he was going to offer you. This is three players that he wants you to take. That tells me two things he really wanted MJ or he really don't know how he's going to keep MJ. You know what I mean? But I would want to believe as much as we know he's an asshole, racist, whatever the case may be, that's cool. He's out of it. He's been gone since what, 2014 good written. There has been some teams that has been built under his, you know what I mean? Now the new owner has done his thing. He has started off the new makeup of the team. He started it off well, even though I think their mascot is a little just reminds me of like a Ninja Turtles bad guy, you know what I mean? It just does. And then the logo is, the logo to me seems more professional, but keep it. I'm not a Clipper fan, but sharing the city between Air Jordan and Magic, the city would have been in shambles. I mean, whatever money we got during that time period, just know that we're getting the same amount double time for just of there's no telling what type of team he would have tried to build around Jordan. You got to remember the blueprint was set out. The blueprint been set out for years. How to build a showtime. No team has duplicated it. None. Some teams have had their run. Some teams have had groups. Look, speaking of the Clippers, Lob City, the lobster in our original Lob City was with youngsters. I was 18 years old. Darius miles quinn Richardson. They had La in a chokehold. The young has had La in a chokehold. They did. Now, did we believe they was going to win a championship? Absolutely not. But were they entertaining? Absolutely. And they were reachable. They were reachable because they practice at what you call it, JC Southwest. The Clippers team practice at Southwest College off of Western and Imperial. [00:15:44] Speaker C: That's in the middle of the hood. [00:15:46] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And they had teams. Vinny Del Negro had a couple of teams. Then they had the Lob City team. They had some teams. And now they got the Kauai and PG 13 Era, which is not bad. And they got Russ on the team, who I just finished talking about. So they got names, they got household names. They got three Cali cats on a team born and raised. Cali cats, la Ellen, Empire, and fucking what you call it? [00:16:17] Speaker C: Lancaster. You know what. [00:16:22] Speaker B: They made. And they got the new arena that's about to open up right there down the street from the Forum, down the. [00:16:28] Speaker C: Street, across the street from Sofa off. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Of Century Century and Prairie right there on the corner. So I don't know what would have happened. I put it to you like they if Jordan goes, gets I don't think Sterling gets pushed out. I don't you got to figure that's going to extend anything. He's never had a player like that. We've always had love and respect for the Danny Mannings, the Brent Berries of the world, you know what I'm saying? What was the white boy name? Remember Plaikowski? I can't remember. But he used to knock them three balls down. He was a killer. He was a killer. They've always had players that we liked. Same thing with, look, we hate Boston more than we hate the Clippers, and that's the backyard rivalry. That's just the facts. We don't even hate them all the way. [00:17:19] Speaker C: We don't. [00:17:20] Speaker B: Sometimes we even rook for them because it's like, damn, nigga, little Engine that could type of lie. I ain't going to say all of us, some Laker fans just don't want to see y'all niggas win at all, just to be truthful. But it's like that, though. Me, no, I'm a fan of the sport, too. And respect is do what respect is due. I love the Lob City era. I didn't think they was going to win. I've said jokingly, and I might be even saying it seriously now. I don't think I'm going to live long enough for them to see them win a championship. And I pray that I reach my you know, I apologize to all Clipper fans, but it is what it is. And we don't even look at it as a rivalry. But I guarantee you, if MJ. [00:18:08] Speaker C: Was. [00:18:08] Speaker B: To play for the Clippers, it would be a much better rivalry because we will meet up in a playoffs. We will meet up in a Western Conference championship. You know what? And that's when that's when a rivalry begins. That's exactly when a rivalry begins. It was a big thing, man, trying to see both the Lakers and the Clippers in the playoffs. That's something, right? Mean, it's not even a freeway. Because at one time we sharing the same goddamn building. [00:18:39] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? [00:18:40] Speaker B: We're still sharing this. They can go. They can go. But I'm almost sure that if MJ was in town, they're not sharing an arena with the Lakers. It's not happening. [00:18:54] Speaker C: It's not know they will eventually get their own. It's going to be a lot of. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Money put behind that. The marketing would be crazy. You'll probably see Michael Jordan in more movies if he stayed out here in La. All I'm saying, you know, and you know what, I will say this, though. You know what his Kryptonite was? [00:19:20] Speaker C: His Kryptonite was drinking and gambling. [00:19:23] Speaker B: And when I tell you Vegas is literally, if, it's right down the street for us pedestrians, there's nothing but a block over for these celebrities. [00:19:32] Speaker C: Now get it? [00:19:34] Speaker B: This thing. MJ. Was probably already going back and forth to Jersey and know when I was in Pampers, but to have that access right next door. Right next. [00:19:52] Speaker C: That'S, that was all a. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Part of look, MJ had a problem with the gambling. [00:19:59] Speaker C: Magic had a problem with the women, all of that. [00:20:03] Speaker B: I mean the gambling is not in the same city. Not like know, I don't think they'll ever bring sports betting to La. But the women top tier, at least top three. So with that being mean, both our superstars are going to have struggles. One of them definitely both of them had their struggles. They just had them at different times. They didn't have them in the same city. So the marketing behind it would be bananas. The reason why they didn't put a plug because it was still that feeling like he might end up being something and he did. So with that being said no, not at all. No, I don't think it'll work. [00:20:53] Speaker C: If the Clippers. [00:20:57] Speaker B: It'S hard to say that he wouldn't be considered the best ever going to the Clippers because again, it's too many things to surround him with. I've never seen him play at a high level outside of that triangle, outside of Phil Jackson presence. Nah, nah. And then even in college, he had some killers around him, you know what I mean? He probably had more killers around him on that Carolina squad than he did on that bull squad. [00:21:25] Speaker C: To tell you the. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Look now you. [00:21:31] Speaker C: Got to pick a coach. [00:21:34] Speaker B: You got to pick a coach. [00:21:38] Speaker C: You see what I'm saying? So I think MJ will still be MJ coming out to La. [00:21:45] Speaker B: That's just more marketing. That's just more marketing. Right can't there's no getting around that. He's in know, outside of New York. There's no other place you will rather go to to have that marketing. [00:22:04] Speaker C: That. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Background, you know what mean? So at the end of the don't think, I don't think it's going to be an issue. I don't think it's going to be an issue. I don't think it's going to be that much of an issue marketing wise. [00:22:20] Speaker C: But sharing the city, I don't know. [00:22:24] Speaker B: We adore balancing that type of love because you got to figure, man, Laker. [00:22:37] Speaker C: Fans, we got chips already. [00:22:40] Speaker B: At this point, I don't see nobody hopping that bandwagon. There might be a couple, don't get me wrong because I never thought I well, I don't say I never thought I'd see today. I could totally understand why a lot of these 90s, these eighty s and ninety s and even early 2000 Clipper. [00:22:59] Speaker C: Fans, they turned into Golden State fans like that. [00:23:05] Speaker B: So with that being said, I can't say I'd be surprised. [00:23:10] Speaker C: But look, I don't think it works out with the Clippers that long. [00:23:17] Speaker B: But at the time, man, that kind of looks bad because look at the standards that we've already had. You stay with one team, you looked at in a different light, a certain way in a different light. When you play for one franchise your whole life, you know what I mean, now, Brian did break those type of standards or whatever, but it's still there. It's like an unwritten rule, as long as you play for one team. And look, Jordan played for he played for two teams. They don't really count the Wizards one. They don't really count it. But it was there. It's there. It's a bad movie. It's a bad movie that he was in, and we watch it from time to time. He had a solid performance, but it was nasty. It wasn't the MJ we was used to seeing. It was painful. [00:24:11] Speaker C: You know what. [00:24:15] Speaker B: We typically say. Yeah, it's just all know, you retire his jersey, the Wizards ain't even got a they don't have a chance. They don't have a chance on bidding on that. [00:24:27] Speaker C: You know what? [00:24:28] Speaker B: But, you know, Bron is different. Bron has played for multiple teams and has won with every team that he's played for. So he set a different standard. So it really don't matter, you know what I mean? But back then, that wasn't a thing, though. These players, pretty much the star players, that is, they pretty much stayed with their teams for a long time, forever almost, until, like, towards the know, when Barkley went to Houston with starts, shit. [00:24:55] Speaker C: Started to shake up a little bit. [00:24:57] Speaker B: Then you started seeing Patrick Ewan and Elijah wanted in different jersey, and it just didn't look right. It just didn't look right. But nowadays you can see your average star in other jersey, and it's like, okay, look how many teams Chris Paul has played for. [00:25:13] Speaker C: You see what you know. Mellow but it was different. [00:25:23] Speaker B: The banana boy boat crew has been in some jersey. It's been some hoarse tendencies when it comes to playing for these teams. Know there's a lot of money, business side involved. But back then, it was different. Man, Dallas Sterling is I'll tell you this much. I think MJ is getting paid more. But I think if he's getting paid more, he's definitely not getting that roster. But I think he's getting paid more. [00:25:48] Speaker C: He's getting paid more. [00:25:49] Speaker B: And all that shit on the back end, maybe they tried that. Maybe they tried as the Clippers, but we're talking about the Clippers. This is their second time in 88. 80 was their second time trying to get MJ, and they still failed. So that's telling me a lot. You couldn't reel in the big fish. You could not reel in the big fish. So, no, in a shorter answer, I don't see six championships. We can only hope for two to three. I don't see a back to back, but I see anywhere between two, maybe three championships, maybe scoring titles, all the personal titles he got that he going to have that. [00:26:31] Speaker C: He going to have that. That's easy. That's what he going to do. [00:26:35] Speaker B: We're winning championships in a Clipper jersey. That's up for grabs right there. It's not a layup. It's not a dunk. It's not a for sure thing. It's not a for sure thing. So I'm going to say no. Cut those championships in half or more than half. He's still going to keep all them titles. MVPs are still going to be on lock. I think the advertisement is going to be that much better. Whatever we got now presently, from the time that we were kids up until my 40 years of age, I think whatever he's done is going to be times ten. If he came to La. Just like I feel that same if he went to New York, if he was in New York or in La. That advertisement would be crazy. Crazy. That's what I believe. That's just what I believe. Twelve cow. I'm sorry. It's the media capitals, so I think he going to get some cereal. All kind of shit. He's got a lot of shit now, but I think it's just more access. It's just different. Instead of being Chicago for 82 games 82 plus games, nicky, you in La. 82 plus games. You ain't got to go nowhere. The vacation spot that she was going to in the summer is already here. You've been living it. But I could definitely see him walking across the hallway if things get too clipperish. So who is he playing with in that Laker jersey? Do you think he will actually win? Twelve cow? Let's talk about it, because if you don't, then if he's not going to win we know MJ, we never said that his personality was going to change. He's still a dog. He's still petty. You don't think he'll walk across that hallway and put on that purple and gold? We heard what the niggas is. We heard what the old niggas said. We wasn't doing that back in the day. We wasn't teaming up like that. And if they did team up, in their defense, they teamed up when they was older. It wasn't like niggas teamed up in a prime. Seeing Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson in their prime together, we've already seen a little bit of that. That was called the Dream Team. And they were older at the time. [00:28:48] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? So it's like that's unfair. That's unfair. [00:28:53] Speaker B: You don't want to see the great white Hope with black Jesus on the same team, nigga. [00:28:59] Speaker C: That's unfair, bro. [00:29:02] Speaker B: It's unfair. And they wouldn't doing that back in the day. But that doesn't stop MJ from having an ego. He's going to go somewhere. He's going to go somewhere where they're going to win. I just don't know how it's going to look after he didn't got traded from Chicago. And then what about other Clipper? Does he not resign? Does he sign in free agency? [00:29:24] Speaker C: I think free agency, that's a different story. [00:29:26] Speaker B: If he goes to another team in free agency, I think he holds on to that. He still holds on to that Godly figure. That Godly complex. I still think he holds on to that. I know a lot of cats will say, well, if you got traded. [00:29:49] Speaker C: There'S. [00:29:49] Speaker B: Nothing he could do about that. Even though players nowadays can damn near choose a destination they want to get traded to. But you was looked at more of a respectable cat if you did it through free agency. If you got traded, that wasn't on you. But if you free agency, well, I will say this. It depends on who you are and how you do it. Some cats just looked at it like, nah, when Braun did it, it was like, really? When Ad did it, well, Ad got traded for but you know what I mean? Like, the offseason, you go free agency is like, oh, Katie. That's what I meant to say. Not, you know, Katie goes over there to go to state dog. If you get traded, that's one thing. [00:30:30] Speaker C: But free agency, we already know what it is. [00:30:35] Speaker B: Imagine wasn't doing that. Jordan definitely wasn't doing that. But I don't think Jordan career I would just say this, I don't think Jordan career ring wise would turn out the same way. Everything else stays the same. Or is time ten? [00:30:49] Speaker C: For real? [00:30:50] Speaker B: That's how I look at it. You have those opportunities when you come to La. Look at Austin Reeves, a guy that came from out of nowhere, literally out of nowhere. And now he has crazy endorsements. They going crazy over him. Like he's a part of a fucking rock band. They made up a rumor lie about him dating Taylor Swift, and he probably did hit. But look at all the opportunity. And y'all haven't been hearing nothing but Austin Reeves names during the summertime. [00:31:18] Speaker C: You know what saying? [00:31:19] Speaker B: So that that shows you. [00:31:25] Speaker C: You put. [00:31:25] Speaker B: That Laker jersey on, that's something. Now, I'm not saying that he wouldn't get in the same time it looks if he had that Clippers jersey. But you're in La. [00:31:32] Speaker C: That's all it is. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Darius Miles and Quentin Richardson made a. [00:31:35] Speaker C: Name for themselves, and they wasn't dominant at all. [00:31:40] Speaker B: No disrespect, but niggas didn't fear them. [00:31:44] Speaker C: But they was out brand. [00:31:47] Speaker B: They was a brand on and off the court. [00:31:51] Speaker C: It was so what do you think MJ was going to do? He was going to shatter records out here in La. Yeah. [00:31:58] Speaker B: The one thing that I would always. [00:32:00] Speaker C: Would have respected is he gave us. [00:32:04] Speaker B: A dog fight in the playoffs. If he gives us a dog fight in the playoffs, you're going to have to respect it. [00:32:09] Speaker C: But I don't know. I mean, good question. [00:32:12] Speaker B: Twelve cow. But it's like, who are the other. [00:32:14] Speaker C: Pieces that's going to be around? [00:32:16] Speaker B: Remember, if this trade does go through, three players for sure is not going. [00:32:20] Speaker C: To be on that team with them. [00:32:22] Speaker B: And if I'm not mistaken and that 88 draft was nice, I think Dan Marley was in that draft. It was some niggas up in that draft. [00:32:31] Speaker C: But that first and that 6th pick. [00:32:34] Speaker B: That end up being? Who did that end up being? Rick Smith and Mitch Richmond. [00:32:44] Speaker C: Those are two good ass players, you. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Know what I mean? Yeah, man, that's my answer. Hopefully that answers your question. Twelve Cow. Shout out to twelve cow. Twelve cow podcast. That's my guy. That's my mentor right there. That's my guy, man. That was another great question to be a part of your show. The gym been popping, man. The gym is open all fall, non winter. I'm just letting you all know. We hoop over here in La. That's what we do. We had some football going on, though. So far. Was rocking tonight. Because the Cowboys, man, I'm driving through the city, no lie, man. At a certain time, I want to say somewhere around like one. No, even before that. Somewhere around twelve, actually. I'm in the Inglewood area and I see niggas walking around with Dallas Cowboy jerseys and shirts and things like that. And these white people look like they come from Texas because they don't look like La white people. The typical country blonde hair, country singer, white girl look, you feel me? Daisy Duke shorts, shit like, don't get me wrong, they got a huge essay following. So them as well. Shout out to my raiders. My raiders as well. And you could just tell that. You could tell the difference between a La cowboys fan and a Texas Dallas Cowboy fan. You can't, man, they flooded in goodwood. And they got a W. They got a W because Herbert decided to throw, which Herbert might be regressing. He seems like know, I thought the Charger was going to pull that one out. [00:34:26] Speaker C: It was a tight fault game. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Pollard broke away from just a Mishta fully, didn't wrap up, and he broke for one, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's what broke it open. But that pick at the end of the game kind of hurt them. Really did. It really did hurt them. So it was a solid game, though. A solid game. I mean, this probably be the only time that I actually thanked the Dallas Cowboys because they beat one of the teams in my division, but I didn't have anyone. I thought San Diego was going to get them. Yes, I still call them San Diego. My raiders put out another w. Here's why I'm worried. I don't trust Brian Hoyer, even though he threw for a little bit over 106 out of ten. Not bad. But again, when you pay close attention to the details and when you look at other quarterbacks, which is unfair, but it's realistic, him being in that pocket, he just don't look poison. They said, fuck the rookie. We seen what we needed to know because Garoppolo hurt his back. And reports are saying that he is kind of looking good, but they don't want to rush him back. I don't care either. And Odin also predicted that he would be injured in the middle of the season and then our quarterback was going to get in. So we was both right because I said that the rookie was going to replace him and he actually did. He actually got replaced by the rookie. It was out for the injury, but the rookie came in and played. But then those responsibilities went to Brian Horace. We seen what we needed to see, but we ended up pulling out a W, you know what I'm saying? Now we beat a bad, terrible patch team. We beat a terrible patch team, but we did beat Green Bay. And Green Bay is not the Green Bay of old though. Not the Green Bay of old, so I'm not going to know. That's what worries me, because we beat teams that were bad. We have yet to be the team that we're supposed to beat. And then we have to beat a good team because we got blew out by Buffalo and we lost to the Chargers even though we played a back. That was the game. That was basically the game with the rookie. And we only lost by what, five? I forgot. But it was a close game. But Cleo Mac had damn near like six sacks though. God damn. Basketball season is approaching though. That's why I appreciate the Twelve Cow podcast question. But yeah, that was football. Both UCLA, USC, both lost. You know what I'm saying? My Dodgers, oh God, I don't even want to talk about them niggas. It was just all bad. Twelve cow all bad. Just all bad around. But I caught the Lakers in the Milwaukee game, man. I saw a dame with Yanis. Looks promising. My Lakers look promising. Man, it's going to be a good basketball season, dog. Going to be a good basketball season. Also, before I get up out of here, ross Strickland was in that 88 draft class, by the way. Speaking of Ross Strickland, he was on a podcast by the name of Bag Gas. Wait. Is it bag gas or is it gas bag? I don't know. You all know the former co host, whatever. But anyhow, they interviewed Ryan Strickland, if you all don't know. He's one of my top five point guards of all time. Personal, you know what I mean? And just listening to him talk about the game and what he did and what he used to do and things. [00:38:12] Speaker C: Like that, that shit was crazy. [00:38:14] Speaker B: That shit was crazy. But y'all need to go tap into that episode. Just type in Rod Strickland interview and I'm pretty sure it'll pop up on YouTube and that's it. Man, I'm a holla at y'all next week. Hopefully we can get another W coming up. We three and three right now and it is beautiful. Richardson, the rookie quarterback for the coast got hurt. They saying he might be off of the ear. That's bad? It's all bad right now. It's all bad right now. I wasn't hearing much noise from the Niners. The Niners lost to the Browns. I watched that game. They lost to the backup quarterback as well. But the scary thing is they're going to lose Debo for a minute. CMC is a little banged up. Trent is banged up. Like their top three players for the 49 Ers are banged up right now. So I haven't heard them. They wouldn't really too much talking during the Cowboys game because they lost and they came out with some injuries. No Dallas Cowboys fans was talking during the game either, which was ironic. But they did start talking after they michael Parson is getting into it with players, niner players and shit like that. And Debo been getting into it with everybody. I don't know what's going on with that, but it's a lot of chipper and chat. But it's also good for the game. As long as these cats don't take it off the field, they keep it on the field, that's cool or whatever. But a lot of chatting has been and the chatting on me. Nothing until they play each other for one and then they play each other in the meaningful game. You know what I mean? [00:39:48] Speaker C: So if these cats is playing at. [00:39:52] Speaker B: The end of the season, but they got playoff spots locked up, I don't think that's not a meaningful game, you know I'm saying? Because they probably ain't going to even play them. But if it's a win or die situation popping game, if it's a playoff game popping because we got that last yeah, we need that. We need that. Niners versus the 90s versus Cowboys rivalries is so clutch. So clutch. But open room with BTG, man, I'm up out of here. Thank you again. Twelve cow. See you next week. Bye.

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